Early Week Reports
Still sorting out what fell on top of the various surfaces and what impact it had across New England.
We do know that Quabaug needs some more cold weather to solidify the slush resting on top of the surface. Late info the surface has improved since yesterday but needs some cold.
Various places on Champlain are being watched by our ace spotter John Zierman and have a possibility of coming in. More on Champlain locations later in the week. A few more cold nights will help things along.
Bill Buchholz has been reporting conditions on Damarascota. Check out https://iceboat.me for updates from the source.
There is greyed out ice can be found in the various bays on Lake Winnipesaukee and we are waiting on a couple area spotters for additional intel.
Lots of unknowns at this point and we are waiting to build some ice everywhere over the next couple nights. Stay tuned, from the looks of things there will be some sailing this weekend. Will be confirming positive news through the week and discussed on Thursday night.-
Think Ice,
John
DN5023
John@neiya.org
Melt Down —> Refreeze –> Sail
“We engaged in a spirited discussion, encompassing our customary sailing locales in ME, VT, NH, MA, CT, and venturing into the Adirondack region of NY. A significant amount of effort is devoted to consistent monitoring of the entire region, involving observations from the shore, as well as walking, skating, and sailing to assess thickness and identify potential hazards. It’s crucial to note that ice is never entirely safe; there are always hazards, some known and visible, while others remain less apparent. Be sure to thank all those who have spent time scouting ice so that we can sail.
Currently, we find ourselves in a thaw and melting process—a resurfacing akin to a Zamboni on the ice between periods at a hockey game. Regrettably, the natural processes take a bit longer than a Zambonis fifteen minutes to resurface Dammarascota, Winni, Quaboag, Saratoga, Bantam, and many others. Thus, we wait patiently, anticipating that, according to regional forecasts, we just need to navigate through a couple more warmer days before we can resume the ice-making game.
Yet, it’s not solely about thickness; the quality and composition of the ice hold significant importance. Our scouts will be vigilant in the coming days, keeping an eye out for drain holes, puddle holes, shell ice, and various hazards.
Below, you’ll find a selection of links from the late Bob Dill’s Lakeice site knowledge base at http://lakeice.squarespace.com. If you haven’t visited the site before, I recommend setting aside a couple of hours to delve into its exhaustive and in-depth information.
Here are some current conditions, among others, currently in play:
We already have a robust roster of regional racers signed up for this year’s DN North American Championships. The event is just a month away, and if you weren’t aware, New England is slated to be the host location—provided we can secure a suitable plate of ice. It’s important to clarify that this is not a guarantee the event will be held in the east, but there’s a near certainty that it will take place from February 25th through March 2nd somewhere. Don’t miss the opportunity to sign up today at https://www.idniyra.org/2024-north-american-championship/“
Remember, one of the most important iceboating attributes is PATIENCE. The dictionary definition truly fits.
pa·tience
/ˈpāSH(ə)ns/
noun: patience
1. The capacity to accept or tolerate delay, trouble, or suffering without getting angry or upset.
Think Ice,
John
DN5023
John@neiya.org
Queue Quaboag Again
Over the past two days, we had a couple dozen people on the ice on several venues. I should take some of my own advice and here it is. If you want to sail mold your schedule around the ice.
Queue Quaboag again. Sailers from NH, CT, MA, and Long Island NY gathered and sailed on a steady light to moderate breeze. Snow rolled in about 2:00 and the day wound down. A great day was had by all. us.
Quabaog 2-23-24 Credit Eben Whitcomb
Outlook for the rest of the week does not drive our ice position forward but will help rejuvenate the lakes that froze before the last couple of snows. Thompson Lake in Maine has lots of skater chatter and gorgeous ice. Has anyone wandered by this lake or intends to soon? Give me a shout or bring your findings on Thursday’s call.
Think Ice,
John
DN5023
John@neiya.org
Where Are We Post Monday Sail?
A great day was had by many on Monday. Getting out across several locations. From Quaboag Pond to Massabesic lake and on Lake Winnipesaukee off Leavitt’s beach. While we are well into our season we are a little behind in building thickness, so please always confirm that conditions are sound and sail heads up till you are very sure of conditions. And of course always inquire about known hazards.
Nine boats sailed today, light winds in the morning, black ice with some crud. Wind picked up in the afternoon and made for some great sailing.
Two boats still on the pond and others may come, may be the last time this week. Remember there is a lion’s club fishing derby sat 27th. I will keep checking it and give a report if it comes around again.
Bob S
Quaboag 2/22/24 Credit George Neyssen
As most of you know there is a change in the weather moving through. How will it effect our ice? Talk of and forecasting weather is a constant din for us all and i’m sure a topic of discussion Thursday night.
Think Ice,
John
DN5023
John@neiya.org
Start Your Week on Quabaug
We have been talking about ice building and being at the ready. Well, that time has come once again. A small group is gathering at Quaboag Pond to thoroughly check out and sail the plate. If you plan to join them do so with caution. Seek out others who have been scouting and sail heads up.
We have improving conditions across our region and expect more opportunities to open up in the next few days. Keep your runners sharp and equipment ready to roll.
Think Ice,
John
DN5023
John@neiya.org
No Known Sailing for this Weekend 1/20-21st
As mentioned this morning we had a slim chance that Schroon in NY would be sailable. As mentioned this morning we had a slim chance that Scroon in NY would be sailable. We are unfortunately skunked for the weekend. The plate was checked and is not think enough and unsailable at this time. The area will see single-digit and negative overnight temps the next few nights so better prospects next week.
We have eyes all over the Northeast and into Canada watching and reporting back so keep the faith. So, if you see something do say something. Remember historic ice conditions are important in making a call. When did it first freeze how much snow fell etc. are all important data points.
Think Ice
John
DN5023
John@neiya.org
Slim Sailing Opportunites This Weekend
A good crowd showed up online last night most knowing that suitable ice conditions were a long shot. This was confirmed with a quick confirmation on a region-to-region basis. One location was a maybe and is being checked out this morning. Schroon Lake in the Adirondack region of NY might just have the goods we are seeking.
The Adirondack region came through last season when we were blocked out of our regular haunts. The area has a growing group of enthusiastic iceboaters who have been welcoming of their New England neighbors. Like many lakes, access can be a challenge, and respect for the launch area and surroundings is key.
Our Cruise Chair (south) Bob S. has secured access to Webster Lake from the launch at Waterfront Mary’s for this season. The owner noted that we as a group had been polite, policed our garage, and left her with a very positive impression of the NEIYA crowd. Once there is ice on Webster be sure to patronize Waterfront Mary’s.
Stay positive we have lots of winter to sail and will update you if the exploration of Schroon Lake turns out to be a GO for the weekend.
Think Ice,
John
DN5023
John@neiya.org
Ice Awaits – Are you Ready?
This cold snap has been making ice for us and we just need our usual conditional window to get out and sail. There is a general consensus that maybe just maybe there is a body of water that was just ready to turn when the snow fell and may get a chance to sail soon. Eyes are out from the Adirondacks across all of New England from the north down the shore. Could we see something happening on the Cape?
Snow covers much of our recent ice over most of the countries but that will melt or evaporate and this cold is increasing the thickness. The bigger lakes are cooling down awaiting our return to their launches.
Iceboating is about optimism. Sailing faster than the wind at one point the fastest human-piloted vehicle and still fastest without nonengine driven.
Remember our call tonight Thursday at 6:30 PM. If you forgot the number reach out to me. Bring your questions and thoughts for a short update on ice in New England and surroundings.
Think Ice,
John
DN5023
John@neiya.org
Thursday’s Call Scheduled for 6:30 Tonight
Greetings all just a quick reminder that we are holding our regular Thursday call @ 6:30 pm. Same number as usual. If you forgot the number reach out to me.
We hope to discuss some of the most recent ice reporting and maybe just maybe a sail before the weather once again turns on us.
It has been a tough beginning but we still have plenty of winter to go.
Think Ice,
John
DN5023
john@neiya.org
As chilly temps set in, our New England iceboat enthusiasts gathered for our weekly call, eager to hear updates on potential sailing spots with smooth black ice. By the end of the call, we had one confirmed Eastern US location as of 7pm. Tom Miller shared details about conditions on Lincoln Pond in Elizabethtown, NY, just off NY Thruway Rt 87. They plan to sail there until the snow arrives. While a bit beyond our usual New England sailing grounds, we’ve ventured into the Adirondacks before, and after all, ice is ice is nice.
Bill Buchholz has been keeping an eye on Plymouth Pond and other venues in Maine, signaling that it’s nearing readiness, pending a final check today (Friday). Intel is circulating, indicating a favorable outlook, but please verify on www.iceboat.me before making any travel plans. Depending on the weather, conditions could be excellent well into next week. Could there be a regatta in Maine next week? Time will tell.
For those interested in cross-border sailing, our Canadian friends have been scouting and sailing Lake of Two Mountains outside Montreal in Vaudreuil. If you’re considering a trip, reach out, and I can connect you with Andre Baby.
Looking ahead, our local lakes and ponds are beginning to skim over, setting us up for the rest of the season.
In case you missed it, VC Charlie Silfvenius showcased his lifelong iceboating experiences in a recent post featured on Scuttlebutt Sailing News on Wednesday: https://www.sailingscuttlebutt.com/2024/01/03/first-ride-the-start-of-it-all/. Kudos to Charlie for introducing around 55k+ people to iceboating through Scuttlebutt. Imagine if we could convert just one percent of their audience to join us on the ice—now that would be something! Charlie thanks for reminding us all about our first time…
A word of caution as we embark on this new season: the ice is fresh, and many of us haven’t sailed yet this year. Exercise extreme caution, inquire with locals, and sail with heightened awareness until you fully understand the nature of potential hazards in the area.
Think Ice and Sail Fast,
John
DN5023
John@neiya.org
Finally Feeling Like Winter
It feels like winter has finally arrived in the Northeast. Yes, we have had some snow and ice. Some have sailed in Maine on what was called epic black ice. But to me, the weather seems to have a different feel. We are making ice and hopefully sailing on it soon.
Bill Buchholz has been keeping an eye on and keeping a steady flow of ice news out of Maine with blow-by-blow axe accounts here https://iceboat.me Keep an on eye on Maine as it looks like something will happen soon. Seems to be Charlie S. has been keeping a keen eye on Winni and surroundings. There is ice but it needs to thicken before we set the blades down. Bob S. is watching but nothing much to report at the moment.
To the North Andre Baby and company sailed in Thedford Mines Canada. They are eyeballing and will be sailing outside Montreal. Any takers for Montreal Ice?
As we all know there is some weather coming in this weekend. How much and where who knows. Get Ready to hit the road as something might happen up north. It could be some races or just cruising some nice new ice.
We will be having our group call tomorrow Thursday 6:30pm. Bring your ice questions boat repair or building queries and of course planning for the weekend, etc.
Think Ice,
John
DN5023
John@neiya.org
P.S. Can’t remember the number drop me an email.
Vintage Crafts Being Readied For The Ice
it’s Thursday and time to catch up on the ice happenings this week.
We had a Vintage Event kick-off call on Tuesday and are ready to solidify plans once we have ice. If you have a vintage craft and would like to participate in our event sometime in February please contact George Neyssen the Event Chairman or me.
At the moment we know people are sailing up on Pushaw Lake in Maine on a beautiful new plate of ice. However, we await further intel before calling any official event, whether racing or cruising. We will have the latest update on our 6:30 Call. That doesn’t mean you should not join in if you can.
Remember, scouting ice for the first time should always be done with extreme caution but the reward is being on a fresh un tracked plate of ice.
Think Ice,
John
DN5023
John@neiya.org
Last Weeks Happenings
This past weekend NEIYA members bursted out of our six New England states to join the Hudson River Ice Yacht Club’s annual meeting. For those who are not familiar with the organization, the HRIYC members are custodians to one of the largest collections of early 20th century ice yacht. Some in their collection were owned by the Roosevelt family.
Those traveling to Hudson NY included VC Charlie, Eben Whitcomb, and our new Vintage Event chairman George Neyssen.
We intend on holding a grand classic iceboat event this season. The welcome mat has been laid down. Has been laid down for the entire region as well as the Midwest. And as we often hear “All we need is ice”
While we sat around inside and talked iceboating on Sunday, several NEIYA members actually sailed. As previously reported by Karen and T there was ideal ice and practice racing on Lake Christina in Ashby, MN. Hats off for the level of commitment to make that happen. More tiller time is the open secret to performance on the race course or cruising.
Coming up we will have our regular call on Thursday at 6:30 maybe there will be some sailable ice to report. If not we will certainly talk about our most recent travels, the Classics event, and how we are getting closer to sailing somewhere.
Any Metro NY iceboaters or those with an interest in iceboating should consider attending the Lake Ronkonkoma Ice Boat Yacht Club Swap Meet.
When: Saturday, December 9th, 2023
From: 12-3 pm
Where: Weeks Yacht Yard
10 Riverview Court, Patchogue, NY
Qeustions: contact John Ziermann racekart8@yahoo.com
Think Ice,
John
DN5023
John@neiya.org
Ice Around New England & Beyond
With Thanksgiving behind us, watchful eyes are monitoring the ice on various lakes and ponds. In case anyone did not see the IDNIYRA announcement last week, our own Paul Chamberland took the honor of first sail. Paul had to really go the distance and success meant going all the way to Alberta Canada.
We already know that the NEIYA contingent has arrived or is en route to Minnesota for the unofficial start of the DN racing season. Secretary Karen will continue to keep us jealous with her reports from Lake Christina. Put it on your calendar for next year.
Bob S. took a swing by Quabaug for a look and it is nowhere near what it needs to be but making progress. Seeing the ice form gives one the motivation to get boats ready.
Meanwhile some 350 miles northeast of Quabaug, Bill Buchholz and cohorts are nosing around a small lake. He reports there are skaters and skimbots. Heavier crafts are holding off for the moment. Pushaw Lake is also being looked at.
A small contingent including myself, VC Charlie S., and George Neisen will be dropping in on the Hudson River Ice Yacht Club’s annual meeting this Sunday. The HRIYC is the historical custodian of many vintage stern steerers. Their goal is to not only maintain but also use the crafts for their intended purpose, sailing on the frozen Hudson and elsewhere. As announced at our own meeting George will be the vintage event point person. Yes, we are going to do our best to make this event happen in 2024.
Our regular call is scheduled for 6:00 pm tonight Thursday 11/30 @ 6:00 pm. Drop in if you can.
Think Ice,
John
DN5023
John@neiya.org
Swap Meet, Lunch & Meeting Review
It was one of the most perfect days I can remember for the Swap and Meeting. There was frost in the morning, a welcome sign of winter coming, and blue skies and sunny with just a nip in the air to remind us of why we were there.
People began congregating at about nine with an official lot start of ten. There were close to 80 or more people in the lot. It was an iceboat marketplace and probably the biggest one yet. Behind all the buying and selling was a mass catching up on our winter friends. Communication is always easier without helmets, masks, and colder temperatures.
Close to sixty sailors and guests were herded up to the hall for lunch prepared and served once again by the staff at the Thompson Speedway Golf staff. Full plates were consumed and there was plenty left for seconds for those attempting to stretch their guts in preparation for the upcoming Thanksgiving holiday.
Before the food coma set in I kicked off the meeting and reminded everyone that we are a group of doers, not sideline watchers. Participation is key to our sport from building to scouting and racing or cruising a body of ice.
Secretary Binder took the group through last year’s minutes and brought back some memories of this past winter. Treasurer Haag let us through the financials and happy to report we are in solid shape with a decent cushion if times go lean.
Up next are words of wisdom from New England’s ace racer James “T” Thieler. As most people know we were skunked once again on the racing front. T brought forth an idea that has been floating around for a while, holding some minor races on weekdays. As suitable venues have become harder to find, it makes sense not to eliminate 70% of our racing opportunities. A quick show of hands and that direction was confirmed for the upcoming season. Remember there is still time to drop the flag on some of our 2023 races before the stroke of midnight on 12/31.
Every year we recognize those in our fold who have sailed their final day on this earth. This year we lost Bob Dill an Iceboating, Nordic skating, and wind-powered speed sailing legend. One of Bob’s most memorable achievements was the building of the Iron Duck which held the sailing speed record of 116.7 mph. Greg Cornelius shared his thoughts and history with Bob. Greg reminded us all about how dedicated Bob was to researching and documenting all that he did with anyone who wanted to learn. He left a wealth of knowledge on the Lake Ice site http://lakeice.squarespace.com/. This body of work will continue for all to learn the finer points of the ice we love to play on. If you have not been on the site check it out.
The 2024 season slate was brought to a vote by Greg Cornelius and voted into office by the present quorum of present members.
Commodore – John Stanton
Vice Commodore – Charlie Silfvenius aka Charlie S.
Secretary – Karen Binder
Treasurer – Bob Haag
The elections were followed by three appointed chairs for the new season.
Race Chairman – James “T” Thieler
Cruise Chairman North – Bob Buchholz
Cruise Chairman South – Bob Strzelewicz aka Bob S.
Thank you to all the elected and appointed leaders for the coming season. And a huge thank you to Jay for all the energy and enthusiasm you brought to the NEIYA over the past three years. I know we will see you out on the ice and I’m sure you will continue to help out in the future.
Next up our new Vice Commodore Charlie S took us through plans for the Winnie the Hardway event. Charlie is poised and waiting for the right conditions to come along and we look forward to this season’s successful attempts.
Conditions for the Classics event did not materialize last season but we are not giving up on former VC Jay Whitehair’s brainchild. Veteran iceboater in many classes George Neyssen will be taking the lead on the event this year. George answered questions about the event and has graciously agreed to help coordinate this multiple-region event. Thank you, Goerge for agreeing to usher the classic event forward.
Before closing it was announced that our weekly Thursday open calls will continue, excluding today Thanksgiving. The calls will be themed till, which will be announced a couple of days prior, and once ice is forming that will be our primary topic. Everyone present at the meeting should have a card with the conference call number. Let me know if you need the number.
Thanks to everyone who made this event happen and a great success.
The meeting adjournment was called and our group once again hit the road all over the mid-Atlantic region, northeast as well as a visitor from St John Canada who won the furthest travel awarded this year.
Get ready ice is coming or has already been sailed by Paul Chamberland near Edonton Canada. In less than a week several NEIYA members will be heading off to MN to kick off the season.
Happy Thanksgiving all and see you on the ice soon
Sail Fast and Think Ice,
John
DN5023
John@neiya.org
Clarification: Swap & Lunch Sunday, Nov. 19th
Apologies for yesterday’s miscommunication on the date of our annual Swap, Lunch, and Meeting. To clarify the event is being held this Sunday, November 19th starting at 10:00 am. See you all there…
I have taken the required penalty in an effort to exonerate myself. If only all of life’s mishaps were as easy to fix.
Also don’t forget about our Thursday evening call at 6:30 pm. This week’s topic Cruising hosted by a panel of experts.
Now would be a great time to catch up on your 2024 dues and pay for Sunday’s Lunch. Payment links are on the right-hand side of the screen.
Sail Fast & Think Ice,
John
DN5023
John@neiya.org
Swap, Lunch and Meeting Original post below with details.
Members, Guests, and anyone with an interest in Iceboating:
The green flag is waving and we are a go on Sunday, November, 19th for the New England Ice Yacht Association’s annual Swap Meet, Lunch, and annual meeting. We will be once again returning to The Golf Course area at the Tompson Speedway in Thompson, CT. Yes you read that right we are going with a Sunday this year and a little later in the season.
Join us at NEIYA’s annual event—an ice enthusiast’s dream! Reconnect with old friends, plan future adventures, and revel in the warmth of camaraderie, sans helmets and goggles.
This is your go-to Northeast event for all things ice sailing, whether you’re a novice or a seasoned pro. From masts to sails, planks to runners, gear up and go faster with us! Don’t miss out—be part of the vibrant NEIYA community.
NEIYA Swap Meet, Lunch & Meeting Information:
When: Sunday, November 19th, 10:00am
Where: Thompson Speedway Golf Course, 205 E Thompson Rd, Thompson, CT 06277
https://goo.gl/maps/DbGpTekm4ZLNnV8n7
Now is a perfect time to pay your 2024 dues and reserve your seat at our annual Luncheon and Meeting. All are welcome to attend.
Please Pay Your Dues
| Dues Time | Price | |
| 2024 Membership | $30 |
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| 2024 Membership + Lunch | $45 |
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| 2024 Membership + 2X Lunch | $60 |
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| 2024 Lunch (11/19/2024) | $15 |
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| Mail in Form We prefer you pay online – Thanks | ||
This year’s event is a little later than usual so don’t wait till November to begin preparing for the season. It’s been a long summer and if you have not already shifted to thinking about iceboating, now is the time. Drag your gear out set it up in the driveway and be sure you have everything. Have anything extra in storage? Nows is the perfect time to free up some storage. Put it up on the classified section. Remember your older equipment may be far better than what someone else has now.
Our Thursday calls will resume next week. More on that coming shortly and stay tuned for a calendar of events.
Till then Think Ice,
John
DN5023
John@neiya.org
P.S. Block out Sunday November 19th and please pay your dues and reserve your seat for lunch
Experience The Ice Wonders
Embrace the ice experience. When you find yourself gliding across a frozen expanse, take a moment to savor the essence of the icy surroundings. The air, dense and invigorating, carries a crisp, almost sterile fragrance.
Amidst this frozen landscape, camaraderie flourishes, and opportunities for solitude beckon for both the speed enthusiast and the leisurely cruiser alike.
I have sometimes sailed away in pursuit of solitude—whether to pause in the middle of a lake for a quiet lunch or take the scenic route home to bask in the beauty that envelops all that glide across the ice. Some gladly volunteer to retrieve the windward mark as the day concludes, rewarded with a breathtaking spectacle as the fleet gracefully retreats over the horizon towards the pits, leaving behind the vast expanse of empty ice.
Keep your senses sharp, for unique sights await those who remain observant. The ice, akin to a desert, may seem devoid, but a keen eye reveals a myriad of intricate patterns resembling etchings on stone and wind-driven glyphs on a mesa. Simply looking around while on the ice can unveil extraordinary wonders—I once discovered a well-preserved hawk feather on Mallets Bay, its quill frozen vertically into the ice, gently swaying in the wind. How it ended that way will remain a mystery.
Introduce newcomers to the expansive playground we all cherish each winter. Share the joy of the ice.
Join us this Thursday for an open discussion on cruising, featuring insights from some of our more experienced cruisers. And mark your calendars for our Swap Meet and Lunch this Sunday the 19th at Thompson Speedway Golf. We look forward to seeing you there.
Sail Fast,
John DN5023
John@neiya.org
Iceboating – It’s About the Speed…
Speed is the ultimate allure of iceboating, beckoning enthusiasts back season after season and finding its place on the bucket lists of many softwater sailors.
While each of us has our own gauge for what constitutes fast, the quest for confirmation is universal. Some rely on GPS and drag race reaching to measure their speed, while others crave the interactive feedback that comes with competition.
Racing is a natural extension of the desire to go fast(er), with each race serving as confirmation of one’s speed relative to one’s competitors. As we stand on the starting line, everyone has a chance of being the fastest. After three laps and a checkered flag, the title of the fastest racer is claimed. Winning every race just doesn’t happen, but simply participating and navigating the course contribute to becoming a faster iceboater.
For those currently racing or harboring an interest in the sport, mark your calendars for our Thursday night 11/9 call at 6:30 pm. Secretary Karen Binder (DN5630) will host the discussion, focusing on DN racing.
Racing is not just for DN. Remember, Race Committee Chair James “T” Tieler (DN5224) has promised to grant any iceboat class with three boats a start. Whizz, Nites, and other classes, are you up for the challenge this season?
Sail Fast and Think Ice,
John DN5023
John@neiya.org
This Week’s Call Theme, is Vermont
With our weather finally turning more seasonable, we are all thinking about the coming ice. Eyes are looking north as the crown of Maine gets snow and the frost in the NH lakes region. It’s Time to give some of our regular spots some consideration.
Let’s talk about Vermont. The Green Mountain state. Not about the mountains but the vast stretches of water that make up Lake Champlain and other other bodies of water.
Based on some feedback we have moved the start time of tomorrow’s call to 7:00pm. I will try to get the number later today. If you have misplaced the number just reach out to me.
Here is a post by Former NEIYA and IDNIYRA Commodore highlighting just how difficult and the level of effort that goes behind finding good ice. https://theneiya.org/2014/09/26/many-miles-to-the-2014-dn-north-americans/
Sail Fast and Think Ice,
John
DN5023
John@neiya.org
Eight Bells: Bob Dill New Englands Ice & Playa Legend
It is with heavy sorrow that I must share the news of the passing of Bob Dill (DN3904). He was a man with a passionate razor-tuned focus covering all things sailing at speed on ice and land and was committed to sharing all that he learned with others.
Many of us watched “The Iron Duck” and could feel his passion behind the record-breaking success. Over the past 30 years, I have spoken to Bob about ice in its many forms as well as sailing. I would see him every time there was an event on Northern Champlain. He was a fixture of the region and could often be seen leading a skating group along the shore or coming through the pits before or after racing. Bob’s Lake Ice Website is the go-to encyclopedia of all things related to ice and is but one of his many efforts to pass on expertly researched knowledge.
Bob’s passing leaves a great void in our community. Like the two memories of him that are burned into my consciousness, may he skate or sail to the vanishing point on black ice or playa.
I have included Deb Whitehorse IDNIYRA Secratary’s comprehensive and heartfelt write-up on Bob Dill below. Thanks Deb.
Please include your memories of Bob in the comments below or drop me an email with your Memories of Bob. Also please include any pictures you have as I could not find any in our archives.
Sail Fast,
John
Dn5023
John@neiya.org
Bob Dill US3904: Eight Bells
by Deb Whitehorse | Oct 30, 2023
The DN Community mourns with the family and friends of Bob Dill US3904, who passed away on October 28, 2023.
Bob served as IDNIYRA Class Secretary from 1988-1991 and Class Treasurer from 1999-1989. He has been nominated to the U.S. Sailing Hall of Fame.
Via Bob Schumacher, Bob’s DN road-warrior and land-yacht-speed-record colleague:
With much sadness I have to report that Bob Dill passed last night after a battle with Alzheimer’s disease. I am at a loss for words but Don Brush said it well.
‘A sad struggle for a unique person. He is, I am sure, in a better place now. He would not have wanted to be the person he had become. We all were better for knowing Bob. I don’t think I ever met a more inquisitive person with a passion for details. His passion for documentation assures his legacy will live on! It was an honor to know and have him as a friend.’ Don Brush
Bob Schumacher
Bob used his sharp engineering mind to quantify wind, ice, land, and speed in several articles. One of his most famous projects was designing and building the land sailing yacht IRON DUCK with his friend, Bob Schumacher. Together, they set a land-speed record.
Bob Dill has left a legacy of articles that have left a last impact on ice and land sailing. Below are some links to a selection of them and other articles about Bob.
Article’s About Bob Dill
National Sailing Hall of Fame Nominee
Bob Dill the Ice Man
Video: Iron Duck
Recognizing Bob Dill and the Iron Duck – Sailing Scuttlebutt
Bob Dill’s Articles
Iceboat Sailing Performance
Sailing Yacht Design for Maximum Speed
Lake Ice – Bob’s website with everything you need to know about ice.
List of Bob Dill Articles on IDNIYRA archived website
Quaboag Cable TV Video
I usually do not send out two posts in a day but someone reminded me about this video which appeared on a local Cable Channel in MA. Some of you might have seen Jackie Mushinsky from Spencer Cable Access, Spencer, MA, but with Quaboag fresh on our minds take another look. Some of you might remember her attending our swap meet back in 2020.
Sail Fast,
John
DN5023
John@neiya.org
P.S. If you want to get in on our Quaboag and Worcester region iceboating call it starts at 6:30 tonight. Drop me an email if you don’t have the number handy.
P.P.S While I have your attention, now is a good time to pay your 2024 Season Dues. Link are on the right at top of page.
What Makes The Wocester, MA Area Special?
Simple, Quaboag Pond and Lake Chargoggagoggmanchauggauggagoggchaubunagungamaugg better known as Webster Lake.
Quabaog Pond in Brookfield, MA is a special place holding many good memories for just about every NEIYA Member? Quaboag tends to be reliable year after year. At 550 acres she is not the biggest body of water but sits in a zone that tends to be colder than surrounding areas, is relatively shallow, and consistently delivers the only sailable ice in New England.
Webster Lake is made up of three distinct sections separated by tight generally unpassable narrows. The lake offers some decent areas with limited access. It is a quiet lake in the winter and we generally have the ice to ourselves for cruising and turning cones.
The green sailed boat was my first DN purchased in the early 90s and long ago sold. Was great to see it out enjoying a perfect day sailing on Webster and bringing thrills to a new group of people. Be sure to bring your old equipment to our Swap meet in November.
Has anyone ever traveled through all the narrow in an end-to-end run? Be sure to bring your stories to tonight’s call.
Bring your tales of Quaboag and Webster to tonight’s member and guest call at 6:30pm – 7:00pm tonight. Email me if you do not have the number.
Sail Fast,
John
DN5023
John@neiya.org
Iceboating Season’s Coming Are You Ready?
It’s hard to believe Halloween is almost here. With the leaves changing(ed) and falling, the shorter days and cooler nights we are all thinking about ice boating. Miles of black ice await us this winter. The clock is ticking as we all have many things to do before we hit the ice.
Most of you know what occurs prior to setting up your boat in the pits and pushing off toward a nice plate but here’s a reminder.
Someone watched as the lakeside trees shed their leaves.
All boat-building and tuning advice and help are freely given to all seeking information.
Boats and equipment are bought, sold, traded, and loaned by fellow sailors before first ice.
Runners are sharpened individually and en masse by skilled sanding volunteers.
Someone watched as fog and mists wafted over the body of water in the early morning hours.
Eyes were on the lake while morning frosts crept toward the water from the shore.
People gazed upon the first mirror of black ice to skim out from shore.
Individuals occasionally take the long way to work to check on ice conditions.
One or more people poked at the new ice with a stick even though they knew it would be some time before is it safe to sail on.
Swung blunt instruments, a wise man from Rockport swears by the blunt end of an axe safe ice test, and drilled test holes.
Talked to ice fisherman who is generally happy to break their solitude for a conversation about fish, the outdoors, or ice.
Scouted off shore with skates, or sailed carefully stopping periodically to check grade and thickness.
People logging ice conditions over time helps to make more informed decisions long term.
Who were those someones? Who were those eyes? Who spent countless hours helping others get ready to sail? Who communicated observations so that others might benefit?
The answer is simple. It is many of you in the NEIYA community. And We thank you
Please remember this when asked to contribute time, knowledge, and skills toward club activities. Ice may form all by itself but it’s a team effort to bring people as a group to the ice. Heed the call. Ready to help out? Don’t wait to be asked. Contact me or any of the other officers.
Be sure to check out the classified section. There are lots of boats suitable for every level. A couple would be ideal starter boats. I know that some will be at our swap meet on November 19th.
It’s been a few weeks since we had a group call. I will start things up tomorrow night at 6:30 on our designated line. General topic getting ready for the season. Next week November 2nd our central topic will be sailing in Southern New England. Followed by other areas like NH, ME, and the Adirondacks in NY. Other topics will be racing forums and more.
As we come into season let’s all get ready to sail and always Think Ice,
John
DN5023
John@neiya.org
P.S. Any guesses on the venue at the top of the page?
Green, Green, Green – Sun Nov 19th NEIYA Swap Meet, Lunch & Annual Meeting
Members, Guests, and anyone with an interest in Iceboating:
The green flag is waving and we are a go on Sunday, November, 19th for the New England Ice Yacht Association’s annual Swap Meet, Lunch, and annual meeting. We will be once again returning to The Golf Course area at the Tompson Speedway in Thompson, CT. Yes you read that right we are going with a Sunday this year and a little later in the season.
Join us at NEIYA’s annual event—an ice enthusiast’s dream! Reconnect with old friends, plan future adventures, and revel in the warmth of camaraderie, sans helmets and goggles.
This is your go-to Northeast event for all things ice sailing, whether you’re a novice or a seasoned pro. From masts to sails, planks to runners, gear up and go faster with us! Don’t miss out—be part of the vibrant NEIYA community.
NEIYA Swap Meet, Lunch & Meeting Information:
When: Sunday, November 19th, 10:00am
Where: Thompson Speedway Golf Course, 205 E Thompson Rd, Thompson, CT 06277
https://goo.gl/maps/DbGpTekm4ZLNnV8n7
Now is a perfect time to pay your 2024 dues and reserve your seat at our annual Luncheon and Meeting. All are welcome to attend.
Please Pay Your Dues
| Dues Time | Price | |
| 2024 Membership | $30 |
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| 2024 Membership + Lunch | $45 |
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| 2024 Membership + 2X Lunch | $60 |
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| 2024 Lunch (11/19/2024) | $15 |
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| Mail in Form We prefer you pay online – Thanks | ||
This year’s event is a little later than usual so don’t wait till November to begin preparing for the season. It’s been a long summer and if you have not already shifted to thinking about iceboating, now is the time. Drag your gear out set it up in the driveway and be sure you have everything. Have anything extra in storage? Nows is the perfect time to free up some storage. Put it up on the classified section. Remember your older equipment may be far better than what someone else has now.
Our Thursday calls will resume next week. More on that coming shortly and stay tuned for a calendar of events.
Till then Think Ice,
John
DN5023
John@neiya.org
P.S. Block out Sunday November 19th and please pay your dues and reserve your seat for lunch
New England Ice Yacht Association 